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Post by petep on Nov 15, 2024 13:00:16 GMT
There are many food products that are legal in the us but banned in Europe and elsewhere.
Lobbyists pretty much own the fda and even epa. Historically under all administrations.
There is talk of banning some food products as Europe has.
What are people thoughts - screw that let people make their own choices. Or the fda and epa have a responsibility to keep known unhealthy foods off the shelves.
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 15, 2024 13:17:03 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe.
But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans.
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Post by freonbale on Nov 15, 2024 15:19:42 GMT
There are many food products that are legal in the us but banned in Europe and elsewhere. Lobbyists pretty much own the fda and even epa. Historically under all administrations. There is talk of banning some food products as Europe has. What are people thoughts - screw that let people make their own choices. Or the fda and epa have a responsibility to keep known unhealthy foods off the shelves. Sounds like over-regulation to me. Let's let the food companies do whatever they want. And if people have health issues, they'll simply buy other products, causing those companies to either produce healthier ones, or go out of business, exactly as a capitalist system is designed to work. You sound like socialists to me. Freon |
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Post by demos on Nov 15, 2024 15:28:36 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe. But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans. As long as the government is mandating/funding school breakfast/lunch, then yes, healthier meals would be the best approach.
Other than that, just create some more transparency in the FDA process and end some of the corruption. That would go a long way IMO.
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Post by greebnurt on Nov 15, 2024 15:35:28 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe. But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans. RFK has talked about doing this. Some of his ideas are pretty nutty, but I'm completely in board with eliminating processed foods from public school provided lunches. You wanna feed your kids garbage like Lunchables, then send them to school with it. |
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Post by thor on Nov 15, 2024 19:27:14 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe. But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans. And yet turds like you blew a goddam gasket at a certain First Lady's 'Let's Move' initiative. STFU. |
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Post by MojoJojo on Nov 15, 2024 19:41:36 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe. But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans. RFK has talked about doing this. Some of his ideas are pretty nutty, but I'm completely in board with eliminating processed foods from public school provided lunches. You wanna feed your kids garbage like Lunchables, then send them to school with it. I'm all for it. The trouble is always the same though, cost. The formulas used to determine matching funds and maximize what you can get with your food money (under a couple dollars per head) inevitably leads to the lowest bid, highly processed, institutional food solutions. Public schools, prisons and jails, any of 'em..they all are required to feed faces for a couple bucks per person. REAL food would cost hella more and that just ain't gonna happen, IMO. :/ |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 15, 2024 20:09:33 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe. But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans. And yet turds like you blew a goddam gasket at a certain First Lady's 'Let's Move' initiative. STFU. Did I, buddy? |
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Post by queshank on Nov 15, 2024 20:24:07 GMT
I really don't care tbh.
Parents have always been in control of what their kids eat at schools.
The obesity crisis is a parenting crisis. And we can't force parents to love their children at the federal level. Sorry but it doesn't work like that.
I honestly have no idea what I did to make my kids both skinny af. Maybe it was paying attention to em and what they ate and encouraging them to drink water?
Nah. We all know it's presidents who have the most influence on the young. I've been hearing about it for 8 years now so I'm sure that must be true.
Queshank
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Post by petep on Nov 15, 2024 21:57:52 GMT
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Post by Fiddler on Nov 15, 2024 22:27:40 GMT
I really don't care tbh.
Parents have always been in control of what their kids eat at schools.
The obesity crisis is a parenting crisis. And we can't force parents to love their children at the federal level. Sorry but it doesn't work like that.
I honestly have no idea what I did to make my kids both skinny af. Maybe it was paying attention to em and what they ate and encouraging them to drink water?
Nah. We all know it's presidents who have the most influence on the young. I've been hearing about it for 8 years now so I'm sure that must be true.
Queshank
"Everything worked out fine for me.. You must be doing it wrong. " -Q
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Post by thor on Nov 15, 2024 22:30:50 GMT
I really don't care tbh.
Parents have always been in control of what their kids eat at schools.
The obesity crisis is a parenting crisis. And we can't force parents to love their children at the federal level. Sorry but it doesn't work like that.
I honestly have no idea what I did to make my kids both skinny af. Maybe it was paying attention to em and what they ate and encouraging them to drink water?
Nah. We all know it's presidents who have the most influence on the young. I've been hearing about it for 8 years now so I'm sure that must be true.
Queshank
"Everything worked out fine for me.. You must be doing it wrong. " -Q
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 15, 2024 22:31:28 GMT
There are many food products that are legal in the us but banned in Europe and elsewhere. Lobbyists pretty much own the fda and even epa. Historically under all administrations. There is talk of banning some food products as Europe has. What are people thoughts - screw that let people make their own choices. Or the fda and epa have a responsibility to keep known unhealthy foods off the shelves. Sure, let's sell poison and let people decide. Nothing bad will ever happen, ever!!!! |
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 15, 2024 22:34:03 GMT
There are many food products that are legal in the us but banned in Europe and elsewhere. Lobbyists pretty much own the fda and even epa. Historically under all administrations. There is talk of banning some food products as Europe has. What are people thoughts - screw that let people make their own choices. Or the fda and epa have a responsibility to keep known unhealthy foods off the shelves. Sounds like over-regulation to me. Let's let the food companies do whatever they want. And if people have health issues, they'll simply buy other products, causing those companies to either produce healthier ones, or go out of business, exactly as a capitalist system is designed to work. You sound like socialists to me. Freon Sure, once they've killed most of their customers, their penalty will be to go bankrupt... Or sell some other stuff to the ones remaining. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 15, 2024 22:38:03 GMT
They should be banned from being fed to kids at government institutions. Let’s start there, maybe. But I’m generally opposed to broad scale bans. As long as the government is mandating/funding school breakfast/lunch, then yes, healthier meals would be the best approach.
Other than that, just create some more transparency in the FDA process and end some of the corruption. That would go a long way IMO.
You know very well that when it's sold in stores, some people will think it's safe, buy and eat it. Transparency won't change a thing. It's written "smoking kills" on all packets of cigarettes here. Does it stop people from smoking? Hell, no!!! |
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Post by thor on Nov 15, 2024 22:39:03 GMT
There are many food products that are legal in the us but banned in Europe and elsewhere. Lobbyists pretty much own the fda and even epa. Historically under all administrations. There is talk of banning some food products as Europe has. What are people thoughts - screw that let people make their own choices. Or the fda and epa have a responsibility to keep known unhealthy foods off the shelves. Sounds like over-regulation to me. Let's let the food companies do whatever they want. And if people have health issues, they'll simply buy other products, causing those companies to either produce healthier ones, or go out of business, exactly as a capitalist system is designed to work. You sound like socialists to me. Freon Somewhat related, there is some stuff in P2025 regarding 'restructuring' farm subsidies which will finish off many owners of family farms in the plains. If implemented, it would constitute one of the greatest Self-Owns in American history. CSA-level stupidity. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Nov 15, 2024 22:49:51 GMT
As long as the government is mandating/funding school breakfast/lunch, then yes, healthier meals would be the best approach.
Other than that, just create some more transparency in the FDA process and end some of the corruption. That would go a long way IMO.
You know very well that when it's sold in stores, some people will think it's safe, buy and eat it. Transparency won't change a thing. It's written "smoking kills" on all packets of cigarettes here. Does it stop people from smoking? Hell, no!!! So should alcohol and smoking be banned then? |
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Post by DaveJavu on Nov 15, 2024 23:07:02 GMT
You know very well that when it's sold in stores, some people will think it's safe, buy and eat it. Transparency won't change a thing. It's written "smoking kills" on all packets of cigarettes here. Does it stop people from smoking? Hell, no!!! So should alcohol and smoking be banned then? Are you against forbidding alcohol and smoking to children? Just to know where you stand on the subject before we continue this discussion...
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Post by freonbale on Nov 15, 2024 23:07:07 GMT
Sounds like over-regulation to me. Let's let the food companies do whatever they want. And if people have health issues, they'll simply buy other products, causing those companies to either produce healthier ones, or go out of business, exactly as a capitalist system is designed to work. You sound like socialists to me. Freon Sure, once they've killed most of their customers, their penalty will be to go bankrupt... Or sell some other stuff to the ones remaining. Small price to pay to ensure capitalism is functioning normally. Freon |
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Post by freonbale on Nov 15, 2024 23:11:17 GMT
Sounds like over-regulation to me. Let's let the food companies do whatever they want. And if people have health issues, they'll simply buy other products, causing those companies to either produce healthier ones, or go out of business, exactly as a capitalist system is designed to work. You sound like socialists to me. Freon Somewhat related, there is some stuff in P2025 regarding 'restructuring' farm subsidies which will finish off many owners of family farms in the plains. If implemented, it would constitute one of the greatest Self-Owns in American history. CSA-level stupidity. Look, I'm beginning to understand the far right perspective. I've been denying my entitlement, denying my ability to exploit everyone else, to assert my inner asshole, and they are telling me I'm a chump for it. So be it. I'm a convert! My new goal will be stop trying to understand everyone and show respect. Bah! That's for pussies. Now I'm all out for me, and me alone. I'm a righty! This is my G-D given right to take whatever I want, even if the country gets destroyed in the process. WIN! Freon |
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