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Post by RWB on Oct 31, 2024 17:54:53 GMT
You should start a thread about Candace Owens and then pretend to not even know who she is. Oh, never mind. You already have that one covered. I swear you're getting stupider by the day. try to be better
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Post by archie on Oct 31, 2024 17:56:19 GMT
The tariffs are what other countries will pay to sell their junk here. It will not be any cheaper then than American made. And maybe then more people will buy made in America. And our manufacturing will be more successful, and the workers will earn a better living. And hopefully we will have more American made cars roaming the country instead of the Japanese junk. And hopefully American manufactures that left the country to produce cheaper junk will move back here and more jobs for the people and produce a product up to USA standards. And the deportation means less of our tax money will be supporting millions that do not belong here. Not to mention how the crime and murder rate should go down. The first sentence is incorrect. Anyone who's ever imported anything knows that tariffs are a price paid by the importers. Regarding mass deportations, you forget these folks work in construction and in agriculture. This will be a labor shock that will make homes and food more expensive. Look what happened to Florida after they kicked out undocumented people: www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumentedNow imagine the losses compounded on a much larger scale. That is right. A tax we pay to sell in other countries. What Trump is talking about is charge the deportees to this country the tariff. The tariff they pay to sell here. Then they cannot sell their junk for less than what is made here. And our country made products will be purchased more than the imported junk. It is ignorant democrats like you and Biden that are destroying the economy of this country.
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Post by archie on Oct 31, 2024 17:59:05 GMT
The economy he inherited he made much better. Then Biden came along, and what do you have now? Admit it. Biden inherited a mess. That's an undeniable fact. Inflation started day 1 of the Biden admin which tells you the prior admin was responsible. Trump was doing fine until the pandemic. Day one Biden made it even worse. And he did nothing in four years to make it better. And Harris doesn't even know what time of day it is.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 31, 2024 18:02:08 GMT
The first sentence is incorrect. Anyone who's ever imported anything knows that tariffs are a price paid by the importers. Regarding mass deportations, you forget these folks work in construction and in agriculture. This will be a labor shock that will make homes and food more expensive. Look what happened to Florida after they kicked out undocumented people: www.npr.org/2024/04/26/1242236604/florida-economy-immigration-businesses-workers-undocumentedNow imagine the losses compounded on a much larger scale. That is right. A tax we pay to sell in other countries. What Trump is talking about is charge the deportees to this country the tariff. The tariff they pay to sell here. Then they cannot sell their junk for less than what is made here. And our country made products will be purchased more than the imported junk. It is ignorant democrats like you and Biden that are destroying the economy of this country. That's hopium and delusion. You have no evidence of these claims and *all the experts and historical facts* point in the other direction, to the conclusion that an economy cannot tax itself into prosperity. Just look at the contraction in the US steel industry following Trump's tariffs, or the billions in bailouts that went to make farmers whole for their lost export sales. www.reuters.com/article/economy/trump-steel-tariffs-bring-job-losses-to-swing-state-michigan-idUSKBN26V06M/www.ewg.org/agmag/2019/07/usda-bailout-impact-trump-s-tariffs-goes-biggest-richest-farmers
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Post by archie on Oct 31, 2024 18:04:33 GMT
All of them. During covid I escaped to florida. Was like it never happened. So you had to escape to make your life better but you say trump made your life better. You are either delusional or full of shit. Now tell us why you are really voting for Trump. Trump did nothing the four years he was president to make your life better. Nothing Florida is not a democrat run state. Many people escaping here. I am sorry to say, some may still vote democrat. I hope this state does not change. Stupid people.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 31, 2024 18:05:16 GMT
Biden inherited a mess. That's an undeniable fact. Inflation started day 1 of the Biden admin which tells you the prior admin was responsible. Trump was doing fine until the pandemic. Day one Biden made it even worse. And he did nothing in four years to make it better. And Harris doesn't even know what time of day it is. No, prior to the pandemic Trump's policies led to billions in dollars in losses for the ag sector, which resulted in bailouts of around 20 bil. Also the Fed had planned on reducing the money supply (owing to all the $ printed after the "great" financial crisis of the oughts) but because of the trade war, they had to reverse gears, and go back to QE (printing money). The trade war was so damaging we had to make the printers hum and give a way billions in corporate welfare. That was all before COVID.
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Post by archie on Oct 31, 2024 18:13:46 GMT
You are dumb. Our farmers and other companies lost their shirt trying to sell to other countries because of the tariff that they had to pay to deport. So Trump is going to do the same thing to them. Do you get it yet? You want to sell your product in China for 10 bucks. Ok, first pay a 9 dollar tariff. China wants to sell a product in the USA, ok first pay a 2 dollar tariff. What Trump is going to do is, American made watch, 50 bucks, China made watch, 50 bucks. Which will you buy?
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Post by petep on Oct 31, 2024 18:13:51 GMT
Trump was doing fine until the pandemic. Day one Biden made it even worse. And he did nothing in four years to make it better. And Harris doesn't even know what time of day it is. No, prior to the pandemic Trump's policies led to billions in dollars in losses for the ag sector, which resulted in bailouts of around 20 bil. Also the Fed had planned on reducing the money supply (owing to all the $ printed after the "great" financial crisis of the oughts) but because of the trade war, they had to reverse gears, and go back to QE (printing money). The trade war was so damaging we had to make the printers hum and give a way billions in corporate welfare. That was all before COVID. Well I suppose you need to tell all the farmers backing trump. But you tell a neat story. Bottom line is polls show farmers supporting trump over Harris. modernfarmer.com/2024/08/what-a-trump-or-harris-presidency-will-mean-for-farmers-and-eaters/
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 31, 2024 18:14:13 GMT
Oh, never mind. You already have that one covered. I swear you're getting stupider by the day. try to be better Well go ahead and explain your comment. Was I the one who started a Candace Owens thread and then pretended not to know who tf she was? No? Well then perhaps you should direct your blatant stupidity at the one who did. Try harder. Be best.
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Post by archie on Oct 31, 2024 18:17:11 GMT
Trump was doing fine until the pandemic. Day one Biden made it even worse. And he did nothing in four years to make it better. And Harris doesn't even know what time of day it is. No, prior to the pandemic Trump's policies led to billions in dollars in losses for the ag sector, which resulted in bailouts of around 20 bil. Also the Fed had planned on reducing the money supply (owing to all the $ printed after the "great" financial crisis of the oughts) but because of the trade war, they had to reverse gears, and go back to QE (printing money). The trade war was so damaging we had to make the printers hum and give a way billions in corporate welfare. That was all before COVID. How many trillions has Biden lost and is still going? If Harris takes over, oh boy. It will double.
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Post by petep on Oct 31, 2024 18:17:26 GMT
I swear you're getting stupider by the day. try to be better Well go ahead and explain your comment. Was I the one who started a Candace Owens thread and then pretended not to know who tf she was? No? Well then perhaps you should direct your blatant stupidity at the one who did. Try harder. Be best. Did he say he didn’t know her or is not that familiar with her. I know her by name. Read stories about her maybe 3x a year. Not sure I could pick her out of a line up. Though I recall see her years ago and thinking she was young and articulate. But most recently the media says she has some orettt wacky views on the holocaust.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 31, 2024 18:18:21 GMT
No, prior to the pandemic Trump's policies led to billions in dollars in losses for the ag sector, which resulted in bailouts of around 20 bil. Also the Fed had planned on reducing the money supply (owing to all the $ printed after the "great" financial crisis of the oughts) but because of the trade war, they had to reverse gears, and go back to QE (printing money). The trade war was so damaging we had to make the printers hum and give a way billions in corporate welfare. That was all before COVID. Well I suppose you need to tell all the farmers backing trump. But you tell a neat story. Bottom line is polls show farmers supporting trump over Harris. modernfarmer.com/2024/08/what-a-trump-or-harris-presidency-will-mean-for-farmers-and-eaters/I would. I would say STOP! Think! And I would have the same message for *anyone* voting for Trump. Folks are maximizing something, but it's not their financial well-being. This recent history of the policy failures of the Trump admin is not merely a "neat" story, it is a factual story that is going to be difficult to refute.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 31, 2024 18:18:46 GMT
No, prior to the pandemic Trump's policies led to billions in dollars in losses for the ag sector, which resulted in bailouts of around 20 bil. Also the Fed had planned on reducing the money supply (owing to all the $ printed after the "great" financial crisis of the oughts) but because of the trade war, they had to reverse gears, and go back to QE (printing money). The trade war was so damaging we had to make the printers hum and give a way billions in corporate welfare. That was all before COVID. How many trillions has Biden lost and is still going? Zero. Zilch.
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Post by RinsePrius on Oct 31, 2024 18:19:32 GMT
Insult me all you want but deep down you know I have you cornered on this subject.
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Post by petep on Oct 31, 2024 18:22:40 GMT
I would. I was say STOP! Think! And I would have the same message for *anyone* voting for Trump. Folks are maximizing something, but it's not their financial well-being. This recent history of the policy failures of the Trump admin is not merely a "neat" story, it is a factual story that is going to be difficult to refute. Why does the left hate free speech and self decisions. For whatever the reason the farmers are saying they prefer trump. Overall. So let them vote based on their criteria. I know you supported Biden installing a disinformation governance board so govt could decide what is true. That’s fine. There are many sheep. Others prefer free speech and open communication. You should vote Harris.
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 31, 2024 18:29:39 GMT
Well go ahead and explain your comment. Was I the one who started a Candace Owens thread and then pretended not to know who tf she was? No? Well then perhaps you should direct your blatant stupidity at the one who did. Try harder. Be best. Did he say he didn’t know her or is not that familiar with her. I know her by name. Read stories about her maybe 3x a year. Not sure I could pick her out of a line up. Though I recall see her years ago and thinking she was young and articulate. But most recently the media says she has some orettt wacky views on the holocaust. Uh huh. Everybody believes you. Your reputation here is one of pure honesty. Like when you claim you pay far more than the average American for your groceries. Pure. Honesty.
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Post by greebnurt on Oct 31, 2024 18:31:20 GMT
The left hates free speech and self decisions!
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Post by archie on Oct 31, 2024 18:45:32 GMT
Do you think we should have a high tariff on imports from this country? By David Yanofsky PublishedMarch 1, 2017 During his speech to a joint session of the US Congress, American president Donald Trump complained that the Harley-Davidson motorcycle company faces a 100% tariff in in at least one country. Fact check: True. The tariff, applied by India on motorcycles with engines larger than 800cc, is a full 100%, according to the International Trade Centre. Other notable countries with high tariffs on large motorcycles are Thailand, China, and Malaysia.
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 31, 2024 20:18:39 GMT
So you had to escape to make your life better but you say trump made your life better. You are either delusional or full of shit. Now tell us why you are really voting for Trump. Trump did nothing the four years he was president to make your life better. Nothing Better is not the appropriate word. I went to Florida to escape democrat run states and cities. Nothing to do with trump. He never issued any authoritarian national mandates. But trump made your life better. What did he do What was better? There are still democrat run states and if he gets elected again, there still will be demcrat run states, so what was better? What will he do to make it better if he gets elected again?
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 31, 2024 20:20:32 GMT
So you had to escape to make your life better but you say trump made your life better. You are either delusional or full of shit. Now tell us why you are really voting for Trump. Trump did nothing the four years he was president to make your life better. Nothing Florida is not a democrat run state. Many people escaping here. I am sorry to say, some may still vote democrat. I hope this state does not change. Stupid people. So in otherwords, trump did nothing to make your life better, it was the republican run states
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