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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 13:54:04 GMT
Lies or Stupid?
I'm actually leaning toward stupid here.
Starting about 2:20.
HARRIS: But what he would do is about eliminating or reducing the ability of corporations to require... required to pay overtime. Overtime pay!
SHARPE: So you'd have... so you could work, and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you for it.
HARRIS: *nodding* for overtime.
SHARPE: Who would work for free? *scoff*
HARRIS: That's right! And overtime means you are actually working a longer day, which means you are more tired, which means it requires more exertion, that's why we have overtime pay.
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Some questions:
1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay?
2. Do these two actually believe that people would be working "for free" even if this was in Trump's plans?
3. To go back to the beginning, are these just blatant lies? Or are these two stupid? Or is it both? It could be both.
4. Not a question, but I like Harris's explanation of how overtime work means a longer work day, and that makes people tired. It reminds me of her explanation of the Ukraine war.
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 30, 2024 14:18:42 GMT
Lies or Stupid? I'm actually leaning toward stupid here. Starting about 2:20. HARRIS: But what he would do is about eliminating or reducing the ability of corporations to require... required to pay overtime. Overtime pay! SHARPE: So you'd have... so you could work, and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you for it. HARRIS: *nodding* for overtime. SHARPE: Who would work for free? *scoff* HARRIS: That's right! And overtime means you are actually working a longer day, which means you are more tired, which means it requires more exertion, that's why we have overtime pay. _______________________ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? 2. Do these two actually believe that people would be working "for free" even if this was in Trump's plans? 3. To go back to the beginning, are these just blatant lies? Or are these two stupid? Or is it both? It could be both. 4. Not a question, but I like Harris's explanation of how overtime work means a longer work day, and that makes people tired. It reminds me of her explanation of the Ukraine war. Read project 2025. You will get all of the details there |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 14:22:35 GMT
Lies or Stupid? I'm actually leaning toward stupid here. Starting about 2:20. HARRIS: But what he would do is about eliminating or reducing the ability of corporations to require... required to pay overtime. Overtime pay! SHARPE: So you'd have... so you could work, and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you for it. HARRIS: *nodding* for overtime. SHARPE: Who would work for free? *scoff* HARRIS: That's right! And overtime means you are actually working a longer day, which means you are more tired, which means it requires more exertion, that's why we have overtime pay. _______________________ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? 2. Do these two actually believe that people would be working "for free" even if this was in Trump's plans? 3. To go back to the beginning, are these just blatant lies? Or are these two stupid? Or is it both? It could be both. 4. Not a question, but I like Harris's explanation of how overtime work means a longer work day, and that makes people tired. It reminds me of her explanation of the Ukraine war. Read project 2025. You will get all of the details there That’s not the claim. The claim isn’t what Project 2025 said. And it definitely doesn’t mean workers would be working “for free” regardless. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 30, 2024 14:27:19 GMT
Read project 2025. You will get all of the details there That’s not the claim. The claim isn’t what Project 2025 said. And it definitely doesn’t mean workers would be working “for free” regardless. Sharpe said “free” , not Harris |
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 30, 2024 14:30:12 GMT
_ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? Why ask? ..
Unless he used the exact words.. "I propose removing overtime pay." the Cult wouldn't believe he wanted to do that..
WTF am I saying.. Even if he did say it exactly like that they'd claim it was a joke or cherry-picked or taken out of context..
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 14:37:00 GMT
That’s not the claim. The claim isn’t what Project 2025 said. And it definitely doesn’t mean workers would be working “for free” regardless. Sharpe said “free” , not Harris And then she said “that’s right”. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 14:38:39 GMT
_ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? Why ask? ..
Unless he used the exact words.. "I propose removing overtime pay." the Cult wouldn't believe he wanted to do that..
WTF am I saying.. Even if he did say it exactly like that they'd claim it was a joke or cherry-picked or taken out of context..
Wonderful dodge. I’ve heard him say that he would work to remove taxes on overtime? I could provide the quotes if you want. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 30, 2024 14:46:13 GMT
Sharpe said “free” , not Harris And then she said “that’s right”. But she ended her statement with “and that’s why we have overtime pay”. I think you are making to much of this on purpose. |
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Post by archie on Oct 30, 2024 14:46:27 GMT
How does this sound?
If you make 10 dollars an hour eight hours a day, that is your regular pay. Now asked to work 4 hours more in that day and you will be paid 15 dollars an hour for that 4 hours. Sounds good. But of course you higher pay will be taxed more than just 10 dollars an hour. And you will pay more tax.
So trump is saying, still only tax the 10 dollars an hour. Not the extra 5 an hour. More money in your pocket without losing part of it in tax.
I wish Trumps law was here then. We had a holiday from the day before Christmas until the day after New Year. We were paid a holiday pay. I was asked to work on an important job during the holidays. I was to get double time pay, plus the holiday pay.
How much do you think I paid in taxes? Probably about what your regular pay was.
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 30, 2024 14:48:37 GMT
Why ask? ..
Unless he used the exact words.. "I propose removing overtime pay." the Cult wouldn't believe he wanted to do that..
WTF am I saying.. Even if he did say it exactly like that they'd claim it was a joke or cherry-picked or taken out of context..
Wonderful dodge. I’ve heard him say that he would work to remove taxes on overtime? I could provide the quotes if you want. He never said he would remove taxes on overtime. He said he would remove taxes on tips |
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Post by archie on Oct 30, 2024 14:49:16 GMT
_ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? Why ask? ..
Unless he used the exact words.. "I propose removing overtime pay." the Cult wouldn't believe he wanted to do that..
WTF am I saying.. Even if he did say it exactly like that they'd claim it was a joke or cherry-picked or taken out of context..
I believe we knew what he meant. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 30, 2024 14:51:30 GMT
How does this sound? If you make 10 dollars an hour eight hours a day, that is your regular pay. Now asked to work 4 hours more in that day and you will be paid 15 dollars an hour for that 4 hours. Sounds good. But of course you higher pay will be taxed more than just 10 dollars an hour. And you will pay more tax. So trump is saying, still only tax the 10 dollars an hour. Not the extra 5 an hour. More money in your pocket without losing part of it in tax. I wish Trumps law was here then. We had a holiday from the day before Christmas until the day after New Year. We were paid a holiday pay. I was asked to work on an important job during the holidays. I was to get double time pay, plus the holiday pay. How much do you think I paid in taxes? Probably about what your regular pay was. Oh please Archie, go away fibble old man |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 14:54:07 GMT
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Post by archie on Oct 30, 2024 15:04:55 GMT
Wonderful dodge. I’ve heard him say that he would work to remove taxes on overtime? I could provide the quotes if you want. He never said he would remove taxes on overtime. He said he would remove taxes on tips He said both. Your propaganda stations may have missed it. |
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Post by archie on Oct 30, 2024 15:08:04 GMT
How does this sound? If you make 10 dollars an hour eight hours a day, that is your regular pay. Now asked to work 4 hours more in that day and you will be paid 15 dollars an hour for that 4 hours. Sounds good. But of course you higher pay will be taxed more than just 10 dollars an hour. And you will pay more tax. So trump is saying, still only tax the 10 dollars an hour. Not the extra 5 an hour. More money in your pocket without losing part of it in tax. I wish Trumps law was here then. We had a holiday from the day before Christmas until the day after New Year. We were paid a holiday pay. I was asked to work on an important job during the holidays. I was to get double time pay, plus the holiday pay. How much do you think I paid in taxes? Probably about what your regular pay was. Oh please Archie, go away fibble old man An old man with a lot of experience that you never had. |
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Post by thecitizen on Oct 30, 2024 15:17:00 GMT
Oh please Archie, go away fibble old man An old man with a lot of experience that you never had. Sure. Isn’t it time for you to take your nap |
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Post by thor on Oct 30, 2024 19:39:25 GMT
Why ask? ..
Unless he used the exact words.. "I propose removing overtime pay." the Cult wouldn't believe he wanted to do that..
WTF am I saying.. Even if he did say it exactly like that they'd claim it was a joke or cherry-picked or taken out of context..
Wonderful dodge. I’ve heard him say that he would work to remove taxes on overtime? I could provide the quotes if you want.  Pointing out the dumbshit dodge you consistently use to defend your master is 'dodging'? |
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Post by thor on Oct 30, 2024 19:41:23 GMT
Lies or Stupid? I'm actually leaning toward stupid here. Starting about 2:20. HARRIS: But what he would do is about eliminating or reducing the ability of corporations to require... required to pay overtime. Overtime pay! SHARPE: So you'd have... so you could work, and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you for it. HARRIS: *nodding* for overtime. SHARPE: Who would work for free? *scoff* HARRIS: That's right! And overtime means you are actually working a longer day, which means you are more tired, which means it requires more exertion, that's why we have overtime pay. _______________________ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? 2. Do these two actually believe that people would be working "for free" even if this was in Trump's plans? 3. To go back to the beginning, are these just blatant lies? Or are these two stupid? Or is it both? It could be both. 4. Not a question, but I like Harris's explanation of how overtime work means a longer work day, and that makes people tired. It reminds me of her explanation of the Ukraine war.  |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 19:52:27 GMT
Wonderful dodge. I’ve heard him say that he would work to remove taxes on overtime? I could provide the quotes if you want. Pointing out the dumbshit dodge you consistently use to defend your master is 'dodging'? Well, yes. For argument's sake, even if I concede that I do that same thing all the time, he is still dodging the point of the thread. So is Kamala stupid or just lying or both? Do you think anybody has proposed that people have to work overtime "for free"? |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Oct 30, 2024 19:52:55 GMT
Lies or Stupid? I'm actually leaning toward stupid here. Starting about 2:20. HARRIS: But what he would do is about eliminating or reducing the ability of corporations to require... required to pay overtime. Overtime pay! SHARPE: So you'd have... so you could work, and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you for it. HARRIS: *nodding* for overtime. SHARPE: Who would work for free? *scoff* HARRIS: That's right! And overtime means you are actually working a longer day, which means you are more tired, which means it requires more exertion, that's why we have overtime pay. _______________________ Some questions: 1. Can anybody find where Trump is proposing removing overtime pay? 2. Do these two actually believe that people would be working "for free" even if this was in Trump's plans? 3. To go back to the beginning, are these just blatant lies? Or are these two stupid? Or is it both? It could be both. 4. Not a question, but I like Harris's explanation of how overtime work means a longer work day, and that makes people tired. It reminds me of her explanation of the Ukraine war. Powerful. It also hurts me a lot because it's relevant. |
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