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Post by Monster Man on Sept 16, 2024 16:59:51 GMT
The rule change was unconstitutional. Obama put that rule change in for the end of his administration to play politics. Fools like you get to lap it up like good little dogs and Obama is not around to deal with the consequences later when it is challenged. Of course you and your kind cheer on the deprivation of rights of citizens without any due process. You don't give a crap about that. Your support for the mentally ill having easy access to weapons is duly noted and completely unsurprising ..
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 16, 2024 17:06:47 GMT
"The rule, which was finalized in December, added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses "
"dementia in nursing homes"
.. .. Yawn ..
Now look into the requirements for receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses.
I did.. before I posted.. Here .. Knock yourself out..
Tell me more about those 75K all living in nursing homes ..
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 16, 2024 17:13:07 GMT
Your support for the mentally ill having easy access to weapons is duly noted and completely unsurprising ..
If they are so mentally ill as to be incapable of having access to weapons, then prove it through due process. The mentally ill are famous for disclosing their affliction when purchasing a weapon .. ?
My Gawd .. You're stupid as well as dishonest..
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 16, 2024 17:17:29 GMT
If they are so mentally ill as to be incapable of having access to weapons, then prove it through due process. The mentally ill are famous for disclosing their affliction when purchasing a weapon .. ?
My Gawd .. You're stupid as well as dishonest..
How do you know they are mentally ill and incapable of having access to weapons? The only stupid and dishonest person here is you. And if this was such a vital piece to gun control, why hasn't Biden and Harris done anything about it for the last 4 years they were in charge? |
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Post by queshank on Sept 16, 2024 17:18:14 GMT
Now look into the requirements for receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses.
I did.. before I posted.. Here .. Knock yourself out..
Tell me more about those 75K all living in nursing homes ..
Neurocognitive disorders (12.02).
These disorders are characterized by a clinically significant decline in cognitive functioning. Symptoms and signs may include, but are not limited to, disturbances in memory, executive functioning (that is, higher-level cognitive processes; for example, regulating attention, planning, inhibiting responses, decision-making), visual-spatial functioning, language and speech, perception, insight, judgment, and insensitivity to social standards.
Examples of disorders that we evaluate in this category include major neurocognitive disorder; dementia of the Alzheimer type; vascular dementia; dementia due to a medical condition such as a metabolic disease (for example, late-onset Tay-Sachs disease), human immunodeficiency virus infection, vascular malformation, progressive brain tumor, neurological disease (for example, multiple sclerosis, Parkinsonian syndrome, Huntington disease), or traumatic brain injury; or substance-induced cognitive disorder associated with drugs of abuse, medications, or toxins. (We evaluate neurological disorders under that body system (see 11.00). We evaluate cognitive impairments that result from neurological disorders under 12.02 if they do not satisfy the requirements in 11.00 (see 11.00G).)
This category does not include the mental disorders that we evaluate under intellectual disorder (12.05), autism spectrum disorder (12.10), and neurodevelopmental disorders (12.11).
D. How do we consider psychosocial supports, structured settings, living arrangements, and treatment?
General. Psychosocial supports, structured settings, and living arrangements, including assistance from your family or others, may help you by reducing the demands made on you. In addition, treatment you receive may reduce your symptoms and signs and possibly improve your functioning, or may have side effects that limit your functioning. Therefore, when we evaluate the effects of your mental disorder and rate the limitation of your areas of mental functioning, we will consider the kind and extent of supports you receive, the characteristics of any structured setting in which you spend your time, and the effects of any treatment. This evidence may come from reports about your functioning from you or third parties who are familiar with you, and other third-party statements or information. Following are some examples of the supports you may receive:
You receive help from family members or other people who monitor your daily activities and help you to function. For example, family members administer your medications, remind you to eat, shop for you and pay your bills, or change their work hours so you are never home alone.
You participate in a special education or vocational training program, or a psychosocial rehabilitation day treatment or community support program, where you receive training in daily living and entry-level work skills.
You participate in a sheltered, supported, or transitional work program, or in a competitive employment setting with the help of a job coach or supervisor.
You receive comprehensive “24/7 wrap-around” mental health services while living in a group home or transitional housing, while participating in a semi-independent living program, or while living in individual housing (for example, your own home or apartment).
You live in a hospital or other institution with 24-hour care.
You receive assistance from a crisis response team, social workers, or community mental health workers who help you meet your physical needs, and who may also represent you in dealings with government or community social services.
You live alone and do not receive any psychosocial support(s); however, you have created a highly structured environment by eliminating all but minimally necessary contact with the world outside your living space.
That about sums it up nicely. Thanks for the assist Fidds. (I looked before posting too. Apparently closer than you did.)
Queshank
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Post by genesee on Sept 16, 2024 17:50:34 GMT
What does this have to do with anything you moron? This has to do with you being a fucking liar, imbecile. You keep calling him a shooter, when you know he didn't shoot. That's the sort of abuse we can expect from a fucking loner asshole like you that marinates in his own filth all day. You'll notice at least I wasn't being snide about it. You can blow it all off. No sweat off my back. |
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 16, 2024 18:05:37 GMT
I did.. before I posted.. Here .. Knock yourself out.. Tell me more about those 75K all living in nursing homes ..
That about sums it up nicely. Thanks for the assist Fidds. (I looked before posting too. Apparently closer than you did.) The listings for mental disorders are arranged in 11 categories: neurocognitive disorders (12.02); schizophrenia spectrum and other psychotic disorders (12.03); depressive, bipolar and related disorders (12.04); intellectual disorder (12.05); anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorders (12.06); somatic symptom and related disorders (12.07); personality and impulse-control disorders (12.08); autism spectrum disorder (12.10); neurodevelopmental disorders (12.11); eating disorders (12.13); and trauma- and stressor-related disorders (12.15).
It doesn't seem to prove what you think it proves..
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 16, 2024 18:12:27 GMT
Doesn't look like the guy got off a shot..
Is simply having a military style weapon NEAR Trump a crime?
Sounds like his 2nd Amendment rights are being abused..
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Post by stugatze on Sept 16, 2024 18:18:16 GMT
All the violence instigated by the left with their hateful rhetoric. I wonder if the shooter is a Republican. Again. _____________________________________________________________________________________
Dear ASSHOLE thorcuck,   .. there NEVER was an ''again'', in spite of WHAT your LYING liberal news networks WANT you to believe!  |
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Post by queshank on Sept 16, 2024 18:45:06 GMT
That about sums it up nicely. Thanks for the assist Fidds. (I looked before posting too. Apparently closer than you did.) The listings for mental disorders are arranged in 11 categories: neurocognitive disorders (12.02); schizophrenia spectrum and other psychotic disorders (12.03); depressive, bipolar and related disorders (12.04); intellectual disorder (12.05); anxiety and obsessive-compulsive disorders (12.06); somatic symptom and related disorders (12.07); personality and impulse-control disorders (12.08); autism spectrum disorder (12.10); neurodevelopmental disorders (12.11); eating disorders (12.13); and trauma- and stressor-related disorders (12.15).
It doesn't seem to prove what you think it proves..
It's the basis for my post and that's all it needs to be.
I didn't say or even suggest that everyone affected by this is a person with dementia.
Only that this is the level of incapacity and dysfunction being discussed.
There are a lot of people with bipolar disorder that aren't on social security Fidds. Only severely dysfunctional people are on social security as a disability. Hence the whoooole section about evaluated people you ignored being on 24/7 care, nursing home facilities, nonstop supervision. Etc.
The only thing that's proven about this discussion is that our government and specifically our executive branch will unilaterally .. in the style of a dictatorship ... choose to circumvent the constitution and people like you will cheer them in doing it. There's a lesson there about my concerns the past several years and what house is really on fire ...
Queshank
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Post by thecitizen on Sept 16, 2024 19:35:39 GMT
I wonder where the criminal got his AR Me too. Was he a criminal before he tried to shoot Trump? We have laws. Criminals and insane cannot buy guns, legally. Yes, he has a criminal record in in North Carolina |
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 16, 2024 20:35:28 GMT
This has to do with you being a fucking liar, imbecile. You keep calling him a shooter, when you know he didn't shoot. That's the sort of abuse we can expect from a fucking loner asshole like you that marinates in his own filth all day. You'll notice at least I wasn't being snide about it. You can blow it all off. No sweat off my back. I wasn't talking to you. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 16, 2024 20:52:14 GMT
This has to do with you being a fucking liar, imbecile. You keep calling him a shooter, when you know he didn't shoot. That's the sort of abuse we can expect from a fucking loner asshole like you that marinates in his own filth all day. You are beyond brain dead. I mean, really. Where did I ever call him a shooter? Let me help you out... I didn't. So, pull your head out of your ass. Calm down. Maybe if you have enough integrity, apologize. You're nitpicking liar, because you may not have used the word but you definitively implied it when you talked about "all the violence instigated by the left", you senseless bastard! Once again, you giant booger, you play the offended virtue because for once you were not word perfect on that one. Go fuck yourself, you imbecile!!! You have no compunction about saying the exact opposite of what has happened, moron. Like when you say that people that can't stand you, wants you around or even think about you, idiot. I hate mosquitoes and I kill them whenever I can but that doesn't mean that I think of them when there isn't one around. You are so stupid that you can't even understand that. Go fuck yourself and disappear from this site and we'll never speak of you ever again.
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Post by HolyMoly on Sept 16, 2024 21:01:33 GMT
I'm starting to get the impression that there are some folks out there who don't like good ol' Donny boy. I wonder if they checked that the gun was real and not a prop. I would guess so. And why shouldn't the mentally ill have the same ability to kill other people that the perfectly sane have? |
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Post by Fiddler on Sept 16, 2024 21:22:55 GMT
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Post by Monster Man on Sept 16, 2024 21:46:47 GMT
You are beyond brain dead. I mean, really. Where did I ever call him a shooter? Let me help you out... I didn't. So, pull your head out of your ass. Calm down. Maybe if you have enough integrity, apologize. You're nitpicking liar, because you may not have used the word but you definitively implied it when you talked about "all the violence instigated by the left", you senseless bastard! Once again, you giant booger, you play the offended virtue because for once you were not word perfect on that one. Go fuck yourself, you imbecile!!! You have no compunction about saying the exact opposite of what has happened, moron. Like when you say that people that can't stand you, wants you around or even think about you, idiot. I hate mosquitoes and I kill them whenever I can but that doesn't mean that I think of them when there isn't one around. You are so stupid that you can't even understand that. Go fuck yourself and disappear from this site and we'll never speak of you ever again.
Of course... you falsely accuse me of saying something I didn't, and that makes me the liar. Only in your backwards worm eaten brain does that make any sense. Never speak of me again? You could not stop yourself of speaking about me after I left the last time. LOL Hell, you have your home decorated around me. I live rent free in whatever tiny fragments still function in that empty skull of yours. |
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Post by DaveJavu on Sept 16, 2024 22:38:18 GMT
You're nitpicking liar, because you may not have used the word but you definitively implied it when you talked about "all the violence instigated by the left", you senseless bastard! Once again, you giant booger, you play the offended virtue because for once you were not word perfect on that one. Go fuck yourself, you imbecile!!! You have no compunction about saying the exact opposite of what has happened, moron. Like when you say that people that can't stand you, wants you around or even think about you, idiot. I hate mosquitoes and I kill them whenever I can but that doesn't mean that I think of them when there isn't one around. You are so stupid that you can't even understand that. Go fuck yourself and disappear from this site and we'll never speak of you ever again.
Of course... you falsely accuse me of saying something I didn't, and that makes me the liar. Only in your backwards worm eaten brain does that make any sense. Never speak of me again? You could not stop yourself of speaking about me after I left the last time. LOL Hell, you have your home decorated around me. I live rent free in whatever tiny fragments still function in that empty skull of yours. I mentioned you once in a list of undesirables, you worthless piece of shit.
Nobody cares about you. Nobody gives two fucks about your miserable self, you mental midget. |
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Post by Odysseus on Sept 16, 2024 22:45:28 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps all the attacks on Trump are in fact fake.
Could be...
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Post by greebnurt on Sept 16, 2024 22:52:12 GMT
Doesn't look like the guy got off a shot..
Is simply having a military style weapon NEAR Trump a crime?
Sounds like his 2nd Amendment rights are being abused..
This is bullshit and you know it. The guy had intent. |
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Post by greebnurt on Sept 16, 2024 22:53:11 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if perhaps all the attacks on Trump are in fact fake.
Could be...
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