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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 15:24:29 GMT
Project2025 is real, it was made by those close to Donald, Donald has already implemented preliminary pieces of it, and he has every incentive of implementing the whole thing. It is ok to fear something that has evidence supporting a reason to fear it. But it IS hard to figure out what is more frightening; the direction Project2025 wants to steer us, or the blind loyalty to it from people like you, who support it regardless of even knowing what's in it. Freon And what has "Donald" repeatedly said about a National Abortion Ban?
So far, the main supporters of Project 2025 seem to be the authors at the Heritage Foundation and the main culprit calling for a National Abortion Ban is that neo-con idiot Lindsey Graham, not Trump.
There are good policies and bad policies reflected in Project2025, but rather than have a calm discussion about such matters, you want to stoke fear based on a cartoonish lie from the pedophile heavy Lincoln Project.
Fear is what the Germans used to persecute the Jews; are you sure you want to use such tactics to further your agenda?
I'm not going to discuss the Holocaust with someone who doesn't even realize they promote Nazi views, and is seen by most American Jews as dangerous. As to Project2025, I don't trust a word Donald says. In fact, it's much easier to assume that whatever he says is a lie, then try to find the few times he's said something that actually was true. So if he SAYS he's not going to implement Project2025, that tells me he absolutely will. There are recordings of him saying he doesn't know anything about Project2025, doesn't know anyone involved with it. Both lies. Why would anything else he says about it be any different? Freon
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Post by Paleocon on Aug 28, 2024 15:28:14 GMT
What any woman does with her body is the height of government micromanaging. It is no one’s feking business what anyone does with their bodies. None. Talk about cramming religion down the throat. If men were the ones to get pregnant, the Bible would have been interpreted to allow it and there would be medical care in every corner. And, abortion is a healthcare procedure which can save a woman’s life. It's not my business what a woman does with her body, but it IS our business when she harms another person, which is exactly what happens in an abortion. If a woman walked up to another person and bashed their skull in with a lead pipe, it would be our business because she has harmed someone else's body. A woman getting an abortion does exactly the same thing (through a professional killer, also know as the abortion doctor)...she harms and destroys a body that is not her own.
And you look stupid injecting religion unilaterally. Is your argument so weak that you have to add such excuses?
Every abortion destroys an innocent human life, without exception.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 15:41:26 GMT
Both are accusations, based on your positions in previous posts. You don't seem to understand the difference between a lie, and an opinion. That's makes you, well, kinda' stupid. Freon Not based on anything I have said. That is what makes it a lie. The fact that you think it was so obvious makes you stupid. Don't agree, lol. But what your comment tells me, is that you don't even know what you are saying. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Aug 28, 2024 15:45:53 GMT
Not based on anything I have said. That is what makes it a lie. The fact that you think it was so obvious makes you stupid. Don't agree, lol. But what your comment tells me, is that you don't even know what you are saying. Freon Agree or don't, the only thing that matters here is if you can articulate why. You can't. Well, I mean, if you were honest you just admit what you are doing, but you are not, so you play this game instead.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 16:04:46 GMT
Don't agree, lol. But what your comment tells me, is that you don't even know what you are saying. Freon Agree or don't, the only thing that matters here is if you can articulate why. You can't. Well, I mean, if you were honest you just admit what you are doing, but you are not, so you play this game instead. Oh, I've done so in the past, MANY times with you. But your response is ALWAYS the same. You basically say that's not what you meant. And supposedly, I'm supposed to know what you meant, and there is no room for interpretation. So in the end, you don't even understand your own words, and I get the pleasure of pointing that out. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Aug 28, 2024 16:25:34 GMT
Agree or don't, the only thing that matters here is if you can articulate why. You can't. Well, I mean, if you were honest you just admit what you are doing, but you are not, so you play this game instead. Oh, I've done so in the past, MANY times with you. But your response is ALWAYS the same. You basically say that's not what you meant. And supposedly, I'm supposed to know what you meant, and there is no room for interpretation. So in the end, you don't even understand your own words, and I get the pleasure of pointing that out. Freon I have been back for about a day here, never said one thing about Project 2025 here other than how dumb what you are doing in this thread is... but yeah, sure Freon. No, you are just the same old pathetic liar you have always been.
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Post by atreyu on Aug 28, 2024 16:27:56 GMT
And what has "Donald" repeatedly said about a National Abortion Ban?
So far, the main supporters of Project 2025 seem to be the authors at the Heritage Foundation and the main culprit calling for a National Abortion Ban is that neo-con idiot Lindsey Graham, not Trump.
There are good policies and bad policies reflected in Project2025, but rather than have a calm discussion about such matters, you want to stoke fear based on a cartoonish lie from the pedophile heavy Lincoln Project.
Fear is what the Germans used to persecute the Jews; are you sure you want to use such tactics to further your agenda?
I'm not going to discuss the Holocaust with someone who doesn't even realize they promote Nazi views, and is seen by most American Jews as dangerous. As to Project2025, I don't trust a word Donald says. In fact, it's much easier to assume that whatever he says is a lie, then try to find the few times he's said something that actually was true. So if he SAYS he's not going to implement Project2025, that tells me he absolutely will. There are recordings of him saying he doesn't know anything about Project2025, doesn't know anyone involved with it. Both lies. Why would anything else he says about it be any different? Freon
He's not going to implement Project 2025. He renamed it to fool the idiots. It's Agenda 47 and reads pretty identically to Project 2025.
So Trump is telling the "truth" but as we always expect real truth is not something he's capable of.
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Post by atreyu on Aug 28, 2024 16:31:17 GMT
What any woman does with her body is the height of government micromanaging. It is no one’s feking business what anyone does with their bodies. None. Talk about cramming religion down the throat. If men were the ones to get pregnant, the Bible would have been interpreted to allow it and there would be medical care in every corner. And, abortion is a healthcare procedure which can save a woman’s life. It's not my business what a woman does with her body, but it IS our business when she harms another person, which is exactly what happens in an abortion. If a woman walked up to another person and bashed their skull in with a lead pipe, it would be our business because she has harmed someone else's body. A woman getting an abortion does exactly the same thing (through a professional killer, also know as the abortion doctor)...she harms and destroys a body that is not her own.
And you look stupid injecting religion unilaterally. Is your argument so weak that you have to add such excuses?
Every abortion destroys an innocent human life, without exception.
This must be you kicking ass again. It's just hilarious when you don't even understand abortion.
Why no one takes you seriously 101. You're delusional about your capabilities.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 16:36:57 GMT
Oh, I've done so in the past, MANY times with you. But your response is ALWAYS the same. You basically say that's not what you meant. And supposedly, I'm supposed to know what you meant, and there is no room for interpretation. So in the end, you don't even understand your own words, and I get the pleasure of pointing that out. Freon I have been back for about a day here, never said one thing about Project 2025 here other than how dumb what you are doing in this thread is... but yeah, sure Freon. No, you are just the same old pathetic liar you have always been. You are lying. By that I mean that you KNOW the truth, and are intentionally saying something different. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 16:38:52 GMT
I'm not going to discuss the Holocaust with someone who doesn't even realize they promote Nazi views, and is seen by most American Jews as dangerous. As to Project2025, I don't trust a word Donald says. In fact, it's much easier to assume that whatever he says is a lie, then try to find the few times he's said something that actually was true. So if he SAYS he's not going to implement Project2025, that tells me he absolutely will. There are recordings of him saying he doesn't know anything about Project2025, doesn't know anyone involved with it. Both lies. Why would anything else he says about it be any different? Freon
He's not going to implement Project 2025. He renamed it to fool the idiots. It's Agenda 47 and reads pretty identically to Project 2025.
So Trump is telling the "truth" but as we always expect real truth is not something he's capable of.
I don't care about the name of the document. I only care about the plan within. He WILL implement that plan, and it would not surprise me at all that he'd rebrand it. Freon
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Post by atreyu on Aug 28, 2024 16:41:32 GMT
He's not going to implement Project 2025. He renamed it to fool the idiots. It's Agenda 47 and reads pretty identically to Project 2025.
So Trump is telling the "truth" but as we always expect real truth is not something he's capable of.
I don't care about the name of the document. I only care about the plan within. He WILL implement that plan, and it would not surprise me at all that he'd rebrand it. Freon
That's my point.
People like Paleocon want to distance themselves from 2025 because they know it's bad, but they support it. So they just change the name and play dumb.
“It’s not just about 2025. It’s about ’29 and ’33 and ’37,” adds Brooke Rollins, Trump’s former domestic policy chief, who is now CEO of the Trump-endorsed America First Policy Institute. Rollins, like Dans and others who consider themselves aligned with the goals of Project 2025.... "
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Post by Monster Man on Aug 28, 2024 16:53:23 GMT
I have been back for about a day here, never said one thing about Project 2025 here other than how dumb what you are doing in this thread is... but yeah, sure Freon. No, you are just the same old pathetic liar you have always been. You are lying. By that I mean that you KNOW the truth, and are intentionally saying something different. Freon You don't know anything about my position and pretend to do so... which makes you the liar.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 16:57:43 GMT
You are lying. By that I mean that you KNOW the truth, and are intentionally saying something different. Freon You don't know anything about my position and pretend to do so... which makes you the liar. Believe what you want. You already do. Freon
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Post by thor on Aug 28, 2024 17:08:28 GMT
Project2025 is real, it was made by those close to Donald, Donald has already implemented preliminary pieces of it, and he has every incentive of implementing the whole thing. It is ok to fear something that has evidence supporting a reason to fear it. But it IS hard to figure out what is more frightening; the direction Project2025 wants to steer us, or the blind loyalty to it from people like you, who support it regardless of even knowing what's in it. Freon You are the only one with blind loyalty here, to driving the message of the left, keep fear mongering about Project 2025, lie, lie, lie. Jar-Jar's Pro response:
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Post by Monster Man on Aug 28, 2024 17:12:56 GMT
You don't know anything about my position and pretend to do so... which makes you the liar. Believe what you want. You already do. Freon Yet again, its not a belief, it is what you can and can't demonstrate here. You come up short, as always.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 17:26:40 GMT
Believe what you want. You already do. Freon Yet again, its not a belief, it is what you can and can't demonstrate here. You come up short, as always. From your perspective, I can see why you'd think that. But while you are the one I am responding to, you are not the one I am talking with. Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Aug 28, 2024 17:32:29 GMT
Yet again, its not a belief, it is what you can and can't demonstrate here. You come up short, as always. From your perspective, I can see why you'd think that. But while you are the one I am responding to, you are not the one I am talking with. Freon Usual worthless nonsense you devolve these discussions down to.
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Post by Odysseus on Aug 28, 2024 17:34:54 GMT
I think you are the one hoping people buy into this project 2025 fear mongering since Harris doesn't have much of anything else to offer. Project2025 is real, it was made by those close to Donald, Donald has already implemented preliminary pieces of it, and he has every incentive of implementing the whole thing. It is ok to fear something that has evidence supporting a reason to fear it. But it IS hard to figure out what is more frightening; the direction Project2025 wants to steer us, or the blind loyalty to it from people like you, who support it regardless of even knowing what's in it. Freon
Project 2025 is another conservative disaster.
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 17:57:22 GMT
From your perspective, I can see why you'd think that. But while you are the one I am responding to, you are not the one I am talking with. Freon Usual worthless nonsense you devolve these discussions down to. Yes, your identification of my consistency is accurate. Freon
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Post by freonbale on Aug 28, 2024 17:57:54 GMT
Project2025 is real, it was made by those close to Donald, Donald has already implemented preliminary pieces of it, and he has every incentive of implementing the whole thing. It is ok to fear something that has evidence supporting a reason to fear it. But it IS hard to figure out what is more frightening; the direction Project2025 wants to steer us, or the blind loyalty to it from people like you, who support it regardless of even knowing what's in it. Freon
Project 2025 is another conservative disaster.
If it helps prevent Donald from getting elected, then I'm all for it. Freon
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