bama beau
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Post by bama beau on May 31, 2024 3:23:51 GMT
If Donald wins, I see chaos for the next four years, just like last time. That is worth voting against. Freon The past 4 years: the border is a complete mess; inflation has been a significant problem; we've got multiple conflicts we're involved in (still), and one has led to protests across the country and especially on college campuses; Congress remains dysfunctional.
Nothing to be particularly enthused about.
You could say much the same about the past 40+ years, depending on your particular political bent. You might say something like that about the past 400 years, and be correct. Are you arguing that America is nothing to be enthused about? |
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Post by freonbale on May 31, 2024 4:32:43 GMT
Yup. You hear my words, not my meaning. And when I explain my meaning, you fall back on the words. Yup. As expected. Freon Jesus man. Give it up. Oh, I've completely given up on you. Freon |
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Post by rabbitreborn on May 31, 2024 8:51:42 GMT
Freon: “polls before 2020? They said Trump was going to win.” Rabbit: do you have evidence for that? Here are some links which show that polls overestimated the support for Biden. From politico and pew research. Freon: “no, when I said “they”, I meant the right wing. They said the polls were saying Trump was going to win.” Rabbit: oh, do you have evidence for this new claim now? Freon: as expected Yup. You hear my words, not my meaning. And when I explain my meaning, you fall back on the words. Yup. As expected. Freon DONT ACTUALLY READ WHAT I WRITE. LET ME CHANGE MY OBVIOUS INTENT AND THEN JUST ACCEPT THE ADJUSTMENT. lol ok |
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demos
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Post by demos on May 31, 2024 14:36:51 GMT
You could say much the same about the past 40+ years, depending on your particular political bent. You might say something like that about the past 400 years, and be correct. Are you arguing that America is nothing to be enthused about? The border situation was not great during Obama or Trump, but it's objectively worse. And people from various persuasions recognize that (even if they disagree how to address it). Inflation has gotten worse; that's also something that objectively verifiable. The one constant has been the military conflicts we're involved in (though we did end one - finally) - many of them illegally. And historically, Congress hasn't always been this dysfunctional; that's gotten worse over time too.
I don't think Biden or Trump is going to substantively improve the situation. So, no, I'm not particularly enthused about this election and the direction of the country.
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