Post by freonbale on May 3, 2024 20:38:30 GMT
With your second point, you have adjusted the goal posts to make it sound like I was only talking about you, when I was talking about your Religion itself. IT has not recognized all its atrocities. IT has not adequately self-introspected to change it's OWN internal problems of creating these evil-doers-in-Jesus'-name. What should it do? Monitor itself to find these seeds of evil, and stomp them out. Standardize its training to insure its message is not being distorted by those seeking mammon instead of that message. Be up front, IN PUBLIC, not just in theological studies, which 99.9% of Christians have no access to, about Christianity's huge errors. All you teach is the good side, not the dangers of past Christians who did evil. There is a LOT you could to prevent future atrocities, if you actually were worried they'd happen in your name. But you just said it yourself, you don't believe Christianity is a cause, so why should you do something about it. That sounds like YOUR flaw, not mine.
So, yeah, if you're only paying attention to televangelists, you might not find what you're looking for. But the real influence (that sometimes takes a while to seep into common culture) have not shied away.
As for "being up front, in public," yeah, I see it all the time. Different circles, maybe, but I suspect that whatever circles you expose yourself to (not that I'm suggesting you're out there all the time exposing yourself in public; it's a figure of speech) it's kind of a confirmation bias kind of thing. You'll pay attention to what supports your pre-existing presumptions. I'm happy to help, if you're interested (again, maybe start with Greg Boyd...I'm sure he has a blog, podcast, YouTube videos...; he's had people leave his church for "not being nationalistic enough" and he's big enough name in North American Christianity to perceived as influential).
Your next point is, as your type of people often say, a word salad. Meaningless mumbo-jumbo.
And finally we get right to it. You should have started with this one. People are naturally 'flawed'. I KNEW you'd go here. It's the Christian's deepest message. All us poor humans are deeply bad at heart, and NEED Jesus to forgive our intrinsic awfulness, and guide us to goodness. Flipped around, it says humans are going to do bad shit no matter what, but at least if they're Christian, then Christianity will survive. Sick, sick, sick.
And by the way, the ONLY people I apply my concerns to are DEVOUT Christians. Most Christians I know are just living their lives, with Christianity the tradition they were raised with. They don't take it too seriously. It's those who do, that we need to worry about.
I think we're done, Mercy.
I appreciate your opening my eyes to just how far a devout Christian will go to ignore their responsibility in the name of growing the Christian business.
You are as thoroughly blind to yourself as the far righties, and the ultimate sufferer of that blind allegiance is humanity itself.
Freon