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Post by Mercy for All on Mar 26, 2024 12:55:27 GMT
Ethnocentrism is only "fear-mongering against non-whites" in a context where whites are the majority. So you either believe that "far right" only exists in North America and Europe (which is not only highly unlikely, it's demonstrably untrue) or you're particularly ethnocentric. Or maybe "culture centric" or "nation centric." I missed one characteristic...nationalistic. Nah, I'm talking about ethnocentrism as being a general disdain or even hatred of the "other" which in maga world is anything not white, Christian, heterosexual, and stunningly stupid. Hell, they'll even accept a random few Black folks as long as they keep their place. maga So “far right” is “white only”? Across the whole world? Do you realize how ethnocentric your definition is?
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Post by Mercy for All on Mar 26, 2024 12:56:44 GMT
Ethnocentrism is only "fear-mongering against non-whites" in a context where whites are the majority. So you either believe that "far right" only exists in North America and Europe (which is not only highly unlikely, it's demonstrably untrue) or you're particularly ethnocentric. Or maybe "culture centric" or "nation centric." I missed one characteristic...nationalistic. Jingoistic? Political=jingoistic. It “works” in a sound-bite age.
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Post by runswithscissors on Mar 26, 2024 15:08:48 GMT
Is it? Did anyone on my list vote to certify the 2020 election? Your very first question... has nothing to do with the stupidity of you claiming any of these folks were "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" Seriously, come back and try again. This time without your usual rambling nonsense. Focus. You focus. The list of far right traits I posted is pretty accurate. All those traits are descriptions of far right positions. As for the initial list of people, I concede that not all of them display all the listed traits. But all of them display several of them. Hawley wasn't even on my list, yet he demonstrated solidarity (approval) of the insurrectionists with his pathetic raised fist salute. Perhaps you are the one who should focus. To be described as far right, I don't require someone to display all the listed traits; any combination of them will suffice. Just as my list was not a complete list of far right traits (just some of them) not all of the named people hold all the listed traits. Some do, though.
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Post by runswithscissors on Mar 26, 2024 15:14:15 GMT
Nah, I'm talking about ethnocentrism as being a general disdain or even hatred of the "other" which in maga world is anything not white, Christian, heterosexual, and stunningly stupid. Hell, they'll even accept a random few Black folks as long as they keep their place. maga So “far right” is “white only”? Across the whole world? Do you realize how ethnocentric your definition is? I didn't say that. In fact, I specifically noted that a few Blacks are in the cult. And they are tolerated. Even some Latinos are in the cult in spite of the cult's rabid demeaning of the ones not in the cult. So, to clarify, you don't have to be white to be bigoted, ignorant, hypocritical, or gullible. But it helps. And is actually the unstated preference. Just look at Tim Scott.
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Post by Monster Man on Mar 26, 2024 16:54:55 GMT
Your very first question... has nothing to do with the stupidity of you claiming any of these folks were "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" Seriously, come back and try again. This time without your usual rambling nonsense. Focus. You focus. The list of far right traits I posted is pretty accurate. All those traits are descriptions of far right positions. As for the initial list of people, I concede that not all of them display all the listed traits. But all of them display several of them. Hawley wasn't even on my list, yet he demonstrated solidarity (approval) of the insurrectionists with his pathetic raised fist salute. Perhaps you are the one who should focus. To be described as far right, I don't require someone to display all the listed traits; any combination of them will suffice. Just as my list was not a complete list of far right traits (just some of them) not all of the named people hold all the listed traits. Some do, though. Why are you telling me to focus? You were honest enough to actually concede only after demanding I show you how what you said was absurdly wrong. Even now, the issue is not that merely some of the things you listed apply to some of them... its that you have yet to say who of any of them were "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" That alone was an absurd claim. And that is just one of them I picked out of the bunch to start with.
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Post by Mercy for All on Mar 26, 2024 17:01:55 GMT
So “far right” is “white only”? Across the whole world? Do you realize how ethnocentric your definition is? I didn't say that. In fact, I specifically noted that a few Blacks are in the cult. And they are tolerated. Even some Latinos are in the cult in spite of the cult's rabid demeaning of the ones not in the cult. So, to clarify, you don't have to be white to be bigoted, ignorant, hypocritical, or gullible. But it helps. And is actually the unstated preference. Just look at Tim Scott. HERE.Does "far right" only exist in North America?And if that's what you're saying... ... REALLY!?
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Post by runswithscissors on Mar 26, 2024 21:36:21 GMT
I didn't say that. In fact, I specifically noted that a few Blacks are in the cult. And they are tolerated. Even some Latinos are in the cult in spite of the cult's rabid demeaning of the ones not in the cult. So, to clarify, you don't have to be white to be bigoted, ignorant, hypocritical, or gullible. But it helps. And is actually the unstated preference. Just look at Tim Scott. HERE.Does "far right" only exist in North America?And if that's what you're saying... ... REALLY!?No, I am not saying either of those things. I thought the topic was about the American far right.
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Post by runswithscissors on Mar 26, 2024 21:42:28 GMT
You focus. The list of far right traits I posted is pretty accurate. All those traits are descriptions of far right positions. As for the initial list of people, I concede that not all of them display all the listed traits. But all of them display several of them. Hawley wasn't even on my list, yet he demonstrated solidarity (approval) of the insurrectionists with his pathetic raised fist salute. Perhaps you are the one who should focus. To be described as far right, I don't require someone to display all the listed traits; any combination of them will suffice. Just as my list was not a complete list of far right traits (just some of them) not all of the named people hold all the listed traits. Some do, though. Why are you telling me to focus? You were honest enough to actually concede only after demanding I show you how what you said was absurdly wrong. Even now, the issue is not that merely some of the things you listed apply to some of them... its that you have yet to say who of any of them were "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" That alone was an absurd claim. And that is just one of them I picked out of the bunch to start with. Sigh. How about this? ALL the things I listed as far right traits do not have to exist in any one person in order for me to think of them as far right. Just as not ALL the people I initially named possess ALL the traits I listed later. But all of them possess SOME of those traits.
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Post by Monster Man on Mar 26, 2024 22:01:27 GMT
Why are you telling me to focus? You were honest enough to actually concede only after demanding I show you how what you said was absurdly wrong. Even now, the issue is not that merely some of the things you listed apply to some of them... its that you have yet to say who of any of them were "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" That alone was an absurd claim. And that is just one of them I picked out of the bunch to start with. Sigh. How about this? ALL the things I listed as far right traits do not have to exist in any one person in order for me to think of them as far right. Just as not ALL the people I initially named possess ALL the traits I listed later. But all of them possess SOME of those traits. How about you actually respond to the point. "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" That alone was an absurd claim. And that is just one of them I picked out of the bunch to start with.
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Post by runswithscissors on Mar 26, 2024 22:09:56 GMT
Sigh. How about this? ALL the things I listed as far right traits do not have to exist in any one person in order for me to think of them as far right. Just as not ALL the people I initially named possess ALL the traits I listed later. But all of them possess SOME of those traits. How about you actually respond to the point. "encouraging violence against all opponents" (prone to violence)" That alone was an absurd claim. And that is just one of them I picked out of the bunch to start with. My list has "encouraging violence....." it was MFA who gave us the "prone to violence" phrase. I merely equated my "encouraging violence..." with his "prone to violence." And I only did that because MFA listed some things he thought I'd overlooked. I told him that I think I covered in smoe form all the things he listed. And with all your dancing around, what exactly do you think the "point" is?
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