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Post by rabbitreborn on Dec 14, 2022 15:37:44 GMT
 What's clear is a precipitous drop Post-WWII until the late 1960s. And then we cycle from 11% to 15%, staying in that range for over 50 years. That's what is clear. You're welcome to provide some other chart. That's not a "steadily decreasing" trend. My link I think covers 1967 to the present. Your chart also shows the same increases in the poverty rates in the periods 1980-90 and 2000-10 just as I previously noted.....that poverty goes up when Republicans are in charge. You’re seeing an increasing poverty rate from 1980 to 1990. Interesting. |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 15:44:34 GMT
Thor, it was not written at all. You might think you are super clever in your own twisted brain, but all you mostly do here is jump into a thread and declare yourself or others a winner. The day you actually engage in any kind of thoughtful dialogue will be a miracle. Not competent enough to read? OK. Q: Why do Marines fire their weapons off the fantails of Navy ships? A: Because the water is the only thing they can hit.  Like I said... The day you actually engage in any kind of thoughtful dialogue will be a miracle. |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 15:45:27 GMT
You must be in the wrong thread. We were talking about qualifications to be in Congress. No, I was just pointing out that it's very common that certain education levels are needed to be designated "qualified" in response to your whining about Boebert being technically qualified to serve (she's old enough, she's a citizen, she lives in the district) even though she's a dumbass. My post was in response to your ignorant allegation that education in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything. Where exactly did I say that "education in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything." |
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Post by thor on Dec 14, 2022 15:49:33 GMT
Not competent enough to read? OK. Q: Why do Marines fire their weapons off the fantails of Navy ships? A: Because the water is the only thing they can hit. Like I said... The day you actually engage in any kind of thoughtful dialogue will be a miracle. The answers you seek are in Reply#14, Jar-Jar. Either you can't read or won't. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 14, 2022 15:53:00 GMT
You are putting words in my mouth; but I do know that the right are the ones who began the war on education then played the victim card for those who are less educated. It is CB one thing to be uneducated and another to accept a job for which you are woefully unqualified. And… more still when you, after serving, show a dismal understanding of our basic tenets of government. Speaking of basic tenets of government, what were the qualifications outlined in the Constitution for serving in Congress? What makes you a snob is that you look down on someone who doesn't have a degree, as if that is what makes them less qualified or intelligent. Here is where you make the statement that "you look down on someone who doesn't have a degree, as if that is makes them less QUALIFIED or intelligent." And I know you so well now that you will begin dancing on this and say that it wasn't YOU who made this allegation but it was someone else who did. My point is that education, in itself, is commonly the main determinant of who is "qualified" for anything. |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 15:54:35 GMT
Like I said... The day you actually engage in any kind of thoughtful dialogue will be a miracle. The answers you seek are in Reply#14, Jar-Jar. Either you can't read or won't. Either you can't articulate or you won't. |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 15:55:31 GMT
Speaking of basic tenets of government, what were the qualifications outlined in the Constitution for serving in Congress? What makes you a snob is that you look down on someone who doesn't have a degree, as if that is what makes them less qualified or intelligent. Here is where you make the statement that "you look down on someone who doesn't have a degree, as if that is makes them less QUALIFIED or intelligent." And I know you so well now that you will begin dancing on this and say that it wasn't YOU who made this allegation but it was someone else who did. My point is that education, in itself, is commonly the main determinant of who is "qualified" for anything. My point is, I never said: ""education in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything."" |
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Post by sokpupet on Dec 14, 2022 15:56:16 GMT
That is a sad commentary on Co voters in her district. She is an uneducated redneck married to a pedophile. Really? Y'all support drag queen strip shows for children but think a young guy doing some stupid shit while drunk is where to draw the line? To be clear, he's still an ass for doing it. But I'm against both and classify what he did as a little less bad than intentionally abusing children while stone cold sober and in public. That doesn't mean anything This…is a sad commentary on you. Euuuuu. Just because HE had been drinking, those kids are just collateral damage? When someone does something like that, alcohol or not, there is something wrong there when they are sober. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 14, 2022 15:57:18 GMT
My link I think covers 1967 to the present. Your chart also shows the same increases in the poverty rates in the periods 1980-90 and 2000-10 just as I previously noted.....that poverty goes up when Republicans are in charge. You’re seeing an increasing poverty rate from 1980 to 1990. Interesting. It increased the initial years of that period and fell in the latter half of that period. Looks like it averages out to be no net change during the entire period. The overall long term trend is downward. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Dec 14, 2022 16:02:34 GMT
You’re seeing an increasing poverty rate from 1980 to 1990. Interesting. It increased the initial years of that period and fell in the latter half of that period. Looks like it averages out to be no net change during the entire period. The overall long term trend is downward. I don’t think you understand trends. The rate started going up in the late 70s. It was curbed and started to fall in the early 80s. I don’t blame Carter. I don’t give praise to Reagan. There are factors bigger than whoever is sitting in the White House. It’s one man. He’s not a God Emperor, regardless of how you Progressive Cultists see it. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 14, 2022 16:06:26 GMT
Here is where you make the statement that "you look down on someone who doesn't have a degree, as if that is makes them less QUALIFIED or intelligent." And I know you so well now that you will begin dancing on this and say that it wasn't YOU who made this allegation but it was someone else who did. My point is that education, in itself, is commonly the main determinant of who is "qualified" for anything. My point is, I never said: ""education in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything."" Just as I thought. And you don't believe, even though you didn't actually say it, that education (or lack of it) in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything? Do you really believe that? Sure, Lauren meets the legal qualifications to be a member of Congress but somehow I think she'd be more effective and better at her job if she had more education. Plus, this would afford her the opportunity not to embarrass herself when she gets the Declaration of Independence and Constitution mixed up. Maybe we should go back to like it was when Lincoln "became" a lawyer by teaching himself law. But you couldn't become a doctor that way even back then. Ah, progress. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 14, 2022 16:10:52 GMT
It increased the initial years of that period and fell in the latter half of that period. Looks like it averages out to be no net change during the entire period. The overall long term trend is downward. I don’t think you understand trends. The rate started going up in the late 70s. It was curbed and started to fall in the early 80s. I don’t blame Carter. I don’t give praise to Reagan. There are factors bigger than whoever is sitting in the White House. It’s one man. He’s not a God Emperor, regardless of how you Progressive Cultists see it. I don't think you understand that the trend since 67 is that poverty has been trending down. The late 70's OPEC price hikes, as well as other economic events cause temporary rises and falls. Reagan's cuts to welfare, as well as Clinton's also caused the trend to drift up in some years. |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 16:15:56 GMT
My point is, I never said: ""education in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything."" Just as I thought. And you don't believe, even though you didn't actually say it, that education (or lack of it) in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything? Do you really believe that? Sure, Lauren meets the legal qualifications to be a member of Congress but somehow I think she'd be more effective and better at her job if she had more education. Plus, this would afford her the opportunity not to embarrass herself when she gets the Declaration of Independence and Constitution mixed up. Maybe we should go back to like it was when Lincoln "became" a lawyer by teaching himself law. But you couldn't become a doctor that way even back then. Ah, progress. I never made any outlandishly absolute comment as to say education does not make you qualified for "anything" It is not my fault you are either too stupid or too dishonest to grasp this fact. We were talking about mocking someone for having a GED and that they were not qualified for Congress. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Dec 14, 2022 16:26:50 GMT
Just as I thought. And you don't believe, even though you didn't actually say it, that education (or lack of it) in itself does not make you "qualified" for anything? Do you really believe that? Sure, Lauren meets the legal qualifications to be a member of Congress but somehow I think she'd be more effective and better at her job if she had more education. Plus, this would afford her the opportunity not to embarrass herself when she gets the Declaration of Independence and Constitution mixed up. Maybe we should go back to like it was when Lincoln "became" a lawyer by teaching himself law. But you couldn't become a doctor that way even back then. Ah, progress. I never made any outlandishly absolute comment as to say education does not make you qualified for "anything" It is not my fault you are either too stupid or too dishonest to grasp this fact. We were talking about mocking someone for having a GED and that they were not qualified for Congress. Well, ok. gibberish ignored No, YOU were accusing someone else of "mocking" her by pointing out that she only has a high school level education. I think you have to admit this is an anomaly in Congress. Ted Cruz is highly educated, he's still a dumbass, but he's "qualified" to be a US Senator and a lawyer. So, education in itself, and nothing else, is needed to be qualified for various things. Ted can be a US Senator with only a GED but he can't be a lawyer with just a GED. Many of us think Lauren is not qualified, despite meeting the legal requirements, to be a member of Congress. She's very high level ignorant. |
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Post by rabbitreborn on Dec 14, 2022 16:29:43 GMT
I don’t think you understand trends. The rate started going up in the late 70s. It was curbed and started to fall in the early 80s. I don’t blame Carter. I don’t give praise to Reagan. There are factors bigger than whoever is sitting in the White House. It’s one man. He’s not a God Emperor, regardless of how you Progressive Cultists see it. I don't think you understand that the trend since 67 is that poverty has been trending down. No it hasn’t. It has been up and down between 11 and 15% multiple times over the past 50+ years. That’s not “trending down”. That’s fluctuating around a stable average. This couldn’t be more clear. I’ve shown the relevant chart from your preferred government sources. |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 16:55:55 GMT
I never made any outlandishly absolute comment as to say education does not make you qualified for "anything" It is not my fault you are either too stupid or too dishonest to grasp this fact. We were talking about mocking someone for having a GED and that they were not qualified for Congress. Well, ok. gibberish ignored No, YOU were accusing someone else of "mocking" her by pointing out that she only has a high school level education. I think you have to admit this is an anomaly in Congress. Ted Cruz is highly educated, he's still a dumbass, but he's "qualified" to be a US Senator and a lawyer. So, education in itself, and nothing else, is needed to be qualified for various things. Ted can be a US Senator with only a GED but he can't be a lawyer with just a GED. Many of us think Lauren is not qualified, despite meeting the legal requirements, to be a member of Congress. She's very high level ignorant. Well, OK. You being a dishonest lying hack who can't simply acknowledge they were wrong in what they tried to say I said... not ignored. |
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Post by Paleocon on Dec 14, 2022 17:32:20 GMT
What's clear is a precipitous drop Post-WWII until the late 1960s. And then we cycle from 11% to 15%, staying in that range for over 50 years. That's what is clear. You're welcome to provide some other chart. That's not a "steadily decreasing" trend. My link I think covers 1967 to the present. Your chart also shows the same increases in the poverty rates in the periods 1980-90 and 2000-10 just as I previously noted.....that poverty goes up when Republicans are in charge. That chart shows poverty increasing under Carter and especially under Obama, while dropping after Reagan took over and a significant drop under Trump. |
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Post by freonbale on Dec 14, 2022 17:39:57 GMT
Fantastic news! Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene back in the GOP controlled House. Hope they both lead high profile committees and in every investigation of Biden and the rest of the liberal filth.
Boebert posted a video message celebrating her victory and the Republicans taking control of the House.
All of the counties completed their recounts, and confirmed we've won this race.
Republicans have been entrusted with the majority and we must now prove we can take the temperature down in DC by leading not only with strength but grace. pic.twitter.com/EH80Egq9UH
— Lauren Boebert (@laurenboebert) December 12, 2022
“The weight this responsibility of being in the majority holds requires discipline and targeted focus,” Boebert said. “It’s time we show how to get real work done for the people.”
For the record, our voting system works. Initially she thought she lost, until the recount was done, as it should have been. And then the proper winner was announced. It happened to be a Repub this time, but the loser conceded, and the system proved it has integrity. You far right wackos need to accept loss when it happens, instead of assuming there is always some kind of conspiracy. Freon |
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Post by Monster Man on Dec 14, 2022 17:48:30 GMT
Fantastic news! Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene back in the GOP controlled House. Hope they both lead high profile committees and in every investigation of Biden and the rest of the liberal filth.
Boebert posted a video message celebrating her victory and the Republicans taking control of the House.
All of the counties completed their recounts, and confirmed we've won this race.
Republicans have been entrusted with the majority and we must now prove we can take the temperature down in DC by leading not only with strength but grace. pic.twitter.com/EH80Egq9UH
— Lauren Boebert (@laurenboebert) December 12, 2022
“The weight this responsibility of being in the majority holds requires discipline and targeted focus,” Boebert said. “It’s time we show how to get real work done for the people.”
For the record, our voting system works. Initially she thought she lost, until the recount was done, as it should have been. And then the proper winner was announced. It happened to be a Repub this time, but the loser conceded, and the system proved it has integrity. You far right wackos need to accept loss when it happens, instead of assuming there is always some kind of conspiracy. Freon Oh no... there are a ton of folks on the left who still think Gore won and Clinton is still going around saying the election was stolen from her with a bunch of folks on the left who think Russia worked with Trump to steal it... The far right is just catching up to the left. |
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Post by freonbale on Dec 14, 2022 17:54:22 GMT
For the record, our voting system works. Initially she thought she lost, until the recount was done, as it should have been. And then the proper winner was announced. It happened to be a Repub this time, but the loser conceded, and the system proved it has integrity. You far right wackos need to accept loss when it happens, instead of assuming there is always some kind of conspiracy. Freon Oh no... there are a ton of folks on the left who still think Gore won and Clinton is still going around saying the election was stolen from her with a bunch of folks on the left who think Russia worked with Trump to steal it... The far right is just catching up to the left. Those opinions did not result in anywhere near the response the far right had when it legitimately lost the last presidential election. You can believe what you want to believe, but that's not the issue we are discussing. It's the massive failed court campaigns, the disinformation that continues to this very day by Donald (and many of you), the threatening of vote counters, and on and on. NOTHING like that has ever happened, until the far right had the biggest temper tantrum in our history. And they failed completely and totally. It was a true embarrassment, it was so thoroughly debunked. Freon |
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