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Post by petep on Nov 27, 2022 14:55:23 GMT
Let’s take ballistic fingerprinting The idea and fact is each barrel is machined and puts a unique “fingerprint” on a shell casing when a round is fired So every gun that is made is fired twice. One casing stays with the gun and one goes to the government. I have some guns with the shell casing Sounds so neat. Find a casing at the scene of a crime, put it in the database that tracks millions of casings, find who bought the gun that matches the casings Think of all the crime this will solve Oooppppsssss - if someone takes a small mail or any sharp object and scrapes a tiny section of the throat of the barrel, the fingerprint concept is rendered useless. Who could have known. Idiots. The states that had implemented it and wasted millions of taxpayer dollars have scraped it. It solved nothing. But it did bloat government jobs. And did cost a fortune. www.baltimoresun.com/maryland/bs-md-bullet-casings-20151107-story.htmlState legislatures often do stupid things in misguided efforts. And, yes, the barrel of a gun can be changed, a gun could be stolen, sold, whatever. I understand the firing pin also results in a unique impression on the flat end of the casing. This can also be changed. So, I see no benefit in "ballistic fingerprinting" which I had never heard of before. I just assumed you were talking about ballistic science, which is a long standing and useful crime fighting tool used by virtually all law enforcement agencies and is accepted by courts as evidence. And I'm pretty sure that mass school shootings were not exactly common before Columbine (89) but have increased by a lot in the past twenty five years or so (during the expiration of the prior assault gun ban). I suppose what’s frustrating, is you believe this was a mistake, simply misguided. Well intentioned. A “who could have known” situation. But it’s not. They were told repeatedly it would not work. For ridiculously obvious reasons. Yet the democrats still went forward with it. It was a scam from the start. We knew it. It was just like biden, walensky, the cdc made the claim the vaccines stop infection and spread. That was not a mistake. Everyone and I mean everyone in the legitimate science community knew it was a lie. They knew it was a lie. And not just a mistake in words. It was a whopper of a lie. How many were vaccinated and assumed they were now safe to be around vulnerable people. I know my cousin and his entire family got vaccinated and then wen to see their dad and uncle in hospice. They all thought they were now safe because the cdc said so. I warmed them they could still get covid. And they all did. Multiple times. Why? To what end? |
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Post by Monster Man on Nov 27, 2022 16:52:18 GMT
biden stating openly all semi auto's should be banned, labeling the unvaccinated the enemy...AOC a proud member of the democrat socialist party of america.. and no one from the party saying a thing.... people will assume, rightfully so, these are party platforms... Semi automatic military type weapons were banned for about ten years back in the 90's. The sky didn't fall. I notice you forgot to mention that the GOP, at their last national convention, produced NO party platform. Their platform consists of only whining and searching out the next thing to be offended or outraged about. What a platform! What a way to solve the problems of the country! And nobody needs to assume anything about them. The fact that they produced no platform pretty much says it all. And so, this allows you to subscribe to any moon barking nonsense they throw out. No, they were not really banned at all. That ban targeted features, so you could still have the exact same semi-automatic weapon, just no flash hider, no bayonet lug, and no folding stock. It was a minor annoyance. |
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Post by Monster Man on Nov 27, 2022 16:55:24 GMT
Yes. Literally no change in crime. Expensive costly legislation that was never meant to solve a problem but simply start the March to more bans. A draconian move and complete waste. Just like ballistic fingerprinting Perhaps you can google how many school shootings occurred during the assault weapons ban in the 90's (the first major one, discounting Whitmans' 67 mission at the University of Texas, which was a bolt action rifle, that comes to my mind is Columbine, which was before the ban) and how many of these incidents have occurred since the ban was lifted. But you probably won't. Legislation banning something is not "expensive" nor "costly." Why do you think it is? Seems to me NOT producing legislation (not doing their jobs) is what's expensive and costly.....paying hundreds of people to not do anything.......it's just hard for me to subscribe to that "what you're seeing and what you're hearing is not what's happening" bullshit that you believe. Ballistic fingerprinting? Are you now discounting the value of ballistic science that can tie a shell casing or bullet to an individual weapon? All you did was throw out that two word phrase and declare some sort of victory that escapes me. School shootings were not really occurring BEFORE the assault weapons ban and the one that started them all occurred during it. Columbine. The fame and notoriety we give people now is far more a driver for shootings than the access to firearms. |
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Post by runswithscissors on Nov 28, 2022 2:47:41 GMT
Perhaps you can google how many school shootings occurred during the assault weapons ban in the 90's (the first major one, discounting Whitmans' 67 mission at the University of Texas, which was a bolt action rifle, that comes to my mind is Columbine, which was before the ban) and how many of these incidents have occurred since the ban was lifted. But you probably won't. Legislation banning something is not "expensive" nor "costly." Why do you think it is? Seems to me NOT producing legislation (not doing their jobs) is what's expensive and costly.....paying hundreds of people to not do anything.......it's just hard for me to subscribe to that "what you're seeing and what you're hearing is not what's happening" bullshit that you believe. Ballistic fingerprinting? Are you now discounting the value of ballistic science that can tie a shell casing or bullet to an individual weapon? All you did was throw out that two word phrase and declare some sort of victory that escapes me. School shootings were not really occurring BEFORE the assault weapons ban and the one that started them all occurred during it. Columbine. The fame and notoriety we give people now is far more a driver for shootings than the access to firearms. Yes, I was in error when I wrote that Columbine was in 89. It was in 99. And I think they used shotguns. Not sure. You can't have one without the other. A chicken or the egg sort of thing. |
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