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Post by petep on Oct 4, 2022 20:41:18 GMT
Greg, perhaps watch this montage of democrats calling to fight....then lets hear that argument you are making....and if that doesnt convince you of how foolish you sound, perhaps you recall that saying if your friend told you to jump off a bridge.... and if he wanted them to fight...to as you believe, to take over the country in a violent coup...he may have told some, maybe a handful, to bring arms and leave the halloween costumes at home...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2022 21:04:56 GMT
What does the word fight mean? Seven out of ten uses have nothing to do with violence and one is about boxing. When paired with phrases likemarch peacefully and let your voices be heard, the most likely meaning of the word fight has nothing to do with violence.
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 4, 2022 21:20:47 GMT
Here we go again... you still have not figured out what a figure of speech is? Beastie Boys, inciting violence: "You gotta FIGHT, for your right... TOOOOOOOOOOO PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTY!" Oh I see.. This^ is like the game you bible beaters play.. If it's a good thing.. Gwad has blessed you. If it's a bad thing.. Satan is up to his tricks. ..
Thanks for reminding everyone just how fucking dishonest you nitwits are ..
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 4, 2022 21:31:58 GMT
What does the word fight mean? Seven out of ten uses have nothing to do with violence and one is about boxing. When paired with phrases likemarch peacefully and let your voices be heard, the most likely meaning of the word fight has nothing to do with violence. “The mob was fed lies. They were provoked by the president and other powerful people, and they tried to use fear and violence to stop a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government which they did not like,”
-Mitch McConnell
“The president bears responsibility for Wednesday's attack on Congress by mob rioters,” -House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy..
“We witnessed today the damage that can result when men in power and responsibility refuse to acknowledge the truth. We saw bloodshed because a demagogue chose to spread falsehoods and sow distrust of his own fellow Americans. Let’s not abet such deception,”
-Sen. Pat Toomey
“If anything, he urged in a very emotional situation, very inappropriate action by people that appear to be his supporters,”
-Mike Rounds
“It’s past time for the president to accept the results of the election, quit misleading the American people, and repudiate mob violence,” -Tom Cotton
Seems you Cultists are the only goobers that don't get it ..
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Post by freonbale on Oct 4, 2022 21:32:32 GMT
What does the word fight mean? Seven out of ten uses have nothing to do with violence and one is about boxing. When paired with phrases likemarch peacefully and let your voices be heard, the most likely meaning of the word fight has nothing to do with violence. So context means nothing to you? Was the Final Solution of the jews just the last one they tried, or did it mean, in context, that they were going to be exterminated. Your argument is that when Donald used the word fight, he meant it like boxing? Are you truly that naive? Freon
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Post by Monster Man on Oct 4, 2022 21:34:06 GMT
Oh man, Biden is inciting violence!!!!
"And it starts with continuing the fight to pass H.R.1, the For the People Act."
"We must also fight for the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act"
He clearly meant, literally, that Democrats must be out there FIGHTING for these things. Blood is on his hands now.
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Post by Monster Man on Oct 4, 2022 21:35:09 GMT
Here we go again... you still have not figured out what a figure of speech is? Beastie Boys, inciting violence: "You gotta FIGHT, for your right... TOOOOOOOOOOO PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTY!" Oh I see.. This^ is like the game you bible beaters play.. If it's a good thing.. Gwad has blessed you. If it's a bad thing.. Satan is up to his tricks. ..
Thanks for reminding everyone just how fucking dishonest you nitwits are ..
You are a bigot to the bitter end. Your last dying breath will likely be to say some snarky bigoted comment about Christians.
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 4, 2022 21:36:14 GMT
What does the word fight mean? Seven out of ten uses have nothing to do with violence and one is about boxing. When paired with phrases likemarch peacefully and let your voices be heard, the most likely meaning of the word fight has nothing to do with violence. Are you truly that naive? Not naive.. Dishonest. Corrupt.. .. But not naive ..
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Post by Monster Man on Oct 4, 2022 21:36:50 GMT
What does the word fight mean? Seven out of ten uses have nothing to do with violence and one is about boxing. When paired with phrases likemarch peacefully and let your voices be heard, the most likely meaning of the word fight has nothing to do with violence. So context means nothing to you? Was the Final Solution of the jews just the last one they tried, or did it mean, in context, that they were going to be exterminated. Your argument is that when Donald used the word fight, he meant it like boxing? Are you truly that naive? Freon No, apparently context means nothing to you. We are the ones pointing out that fight is a figure of speech here. You are the ones trying to argue Trump literally was calling for folks to go violently overthrow the government. In the same speech he explicitly said he wanted them to peacefully march in... You want us to literally believe figures of speech, and ignore what he explicitly said.
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Post by MojoJojo on Oct 4, 2022 21:42:01 GMT
Trump's words were heard loud and clear by his supporters.
Let's not forget that communication has two ends, the speaker and the listener. Judging by the actions of the listeners, I'd say Trump's words had a more specific meaning to his listeners than to his defenders after the fact.
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Post by Fiddler on Oct 4, 2022 21:42:27 GMT
Oh I see.. This^ is like the game you bible beaters play.. If it's a good thing.. Gwad has blessed you. If it's a bad thing.. Satan is up to his tricks. ..
Thanks for reminding everyone just how fucking dishonest you nitwits are ..
Your last dying breath will likely be to say some snarky bigoted comment about Christians. Why wait that long..? Fuck'um ..
And that's for the Romanized Christians post First Council of Nicaea .. the event that ended Christianity ..
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Post by freonbale on Oct 4, 2022 21:42:47 GMT
So context means nothing to you? Was the Final Solution of the jews just the last one they tried, or did it mean, in context, that they were going to be exterminated. Your argument is that when Donald used the word fight, he meant it like boxing? Are you truly that naive? Freon No, apparently context means nothing to you. We are the ones pointing out that fight is a figure of speech here. You are the ones trying to argue Trump literally was calling for folks to go violently overthrow the government. In the same speech he explicitly said he wanted them to peacefully march in... You want us to literally believe figures of speech, and ignore what he explicitly said. By your own side's LENGTHY show of definition for the word 'fight', IF we were literal, we would mean the boxing kind. So it is EXACTLY opposite of what you are saying, in that in context, he was directing his followers to ACTUALLY take up arms and do what they did. And they did. The ONLY reason the word 'peaceful' came out of his mouth at all, the ONLY one, is so that it is a defense when he gets taken to court. But even if ONLY his words are used against him (or for him), he still doesn't have a chance of not being proven guilty, because there is simply too many of his own words that implicate him. AND staggering quantities of other evidence. I will have to seriously praise his lawyers, the ones he can actually get to work for him, if they succeed in getting him off with no guilty verdict. That will be the apex of any of their careers, comparable to making it to orbit by jumping on a trampoline. Freon
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Post by oldtrapper on Oct 4, 2022 22:27:32 GMT
Here we go again... you still have not figured out what a figure of speech is? Beastie Boys, inciting violence: "You gotta FIGHT, for your right... TOOOOOOOOOOO PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTY!" Oh I see.. This^ is like the game you bible beaters play.. If it's a good thing.. Gwad has blessed you. If it's a bad thing.. Satan is up to his tricks. ..
Thanks for reminding everyone just how fucking dishonest you nitwits are ..
Only the fake ones. Kind of like a Jew using Atheist talking points.
Or is he just being dishonest.
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Post by oldtrapper on Oct 4, 2022 22:35:49 GMT
Greg, perhaps watch this montage of democrats calling to fight....then lets hear that argument you are making....and if that doesnt convince you of how foolish you sound, perhaps you recall that saying if your friend told you to jump off a bridge.... and if he wanted them to fight...to as you believe, to take over the country in a violent coup...he may have told some, maybe a handful, to bring arms and leave the halloween costumes at home... I was wondering why the OathKeepers had arms (rifles, grenades, etc.) stored in trunks of cars, hotels, etc., waiting for trump to cite the Insurrection Act so they could use them.
But intelligence is not something you revel in, nor is honesty, or truth.
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Post by Monster Man on Oct 5, 2022 0:39:20 GMT
Trump's words were heard loud and clear by his supporters. Let's not forget that communication has two ends, the speaker and the listener. Judging by the actions of the listeners, I'd say Trump's words had a more specific meaning to his listeners than to his defenders after the fact. Clearly not, figuring so few of them engaged in any violence. Most people showed up, peacefully protested, then went home. Even the majority of those at the Capitol did little more than wander around like idiotic tourists taking selfies. Your argument falls flat on its face.
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Post by Monster Man on Oct 5, 2022 0:40:52 GMT
Your last dying breath will likely be to say some snarky bigoted comment about Christians. Why wait that long..? Fuck'um ..
And that's for the Romanized Christians post First Council of Nicaea .. the event that ended Christianity ..
Oh, I had no doubt you would continue to be the dreg you are until then too.
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Post by Monster Man on Oct 5, 2022 0:45:33 GMT
No, apparently context means nothing to you. We are the ones pointing out that fight is a figure of speech here. You are the ones trying to argue Trump literally was calling for folks to go violently overthrow the government. In the same speech he explicitly said he wanted them to peacefully march in... You want us to literally believe figures of speech, and ignore what he explicitly said. By your own side's LENGTHY show of definition for the word 'fight', IF we were literal, we would mean the boxing kind. So it is EXACTLY opposite of what you are saying, in that in context, he was directing his followers to ACTUALLY take up arms and do what they did. And they did. The ONLY reason the word 'peaceful' came out of his mouth at all, the ONLY one, is so that it is a defense when he gets taken to court. But even if ONLY his words are used against him (or for him), he still doesn't have a chance of not being proven guilty, because there is simply too many of his own words that implicate him. AND staggering quantities of other evidence. I will have to seriously praise his lawyers, the ones he can actually get to work for him, if they succeed in getting him off with no guilty verdict. That will be the apex of any of their careers, comparable to making it to orbit by jumping on a trampoline. Freon You clearly did not read what "my side" had to say and I speak for myself anyhow. "My side" could make the absolute dumbest comment or argument in the world, you choosing to bring that up instead of responding to me only shows how desperate you are in your inability to respond to what I said. You are making baseless assertions about his motives now. Oh yeah, this is where you play your silly game claiming to have all this evidence, but never produce any of it. You still think the incitement thing is going to go anywhere? That is cute.
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Post by limey² on Oct 5, 2022 1:31:41 GMT
The point so far is that there is ZERO evidence Trump somehow coordinated in any way with anyone to do violence on the 6th. This is what Democrats imply, accuse him of, want to believe, and push propaganda trying to make it appear this way... but at the end of the day, there is ZERO evidence of this. We just sat thru thousands and thousands of man hours of hearings...and all we heard was - trump was pissed he lost, and he kept looking and asking for ways from his immediate staff how it could be looked into, reversed possibly, challenged....and all legal opinions given were he was out of luck...so from the hearings he was holed up with them... and then we have this other narrative, that makes you believe he was on a walkie talkie, coordinating some rush to the capital, to pursue a coup...as if he was actually in communication with people who went over the the capital. The left wants you to see his as an angry nut - and they good a good job at his staff sharing how they were with him the whole time and how upset he was no one could find a legit challenge... and they also want you to believe he was all alone coordinating some attack with a few weirdos... Jesus - enough already... Henry II was entirely unconnected to the fate of St Thomas á Beckett, too. No.... seriously. www.britishmuseum.org/blog/thomas-becket-murder-shook-middle-ages#:~:text=was%20Thomas%20Becket%3F-,The%20assassination%20of%20Thomas%20Becket%20in%20Canterbury%20Cathedral%20on%2029,later%20as%20Archbishop%20of%20Canterbury.
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Post by freonbale on Oct 5, 2022 1:47:01 GMT
By your own side's LENGTHY show of definition for the word 'fight', IF we were literal, we would mean the boxing kind. So it is EXACTLY opposite of what you are saying, in that in context, he was directing his followers to ACTUALLY take up arms and do what they did. And they did. The ONLY reason the word 'peaceful' came out of his mouth at all, the ONLY one, is so that it is a defense when he gets taken to court. But even if ONLY his words are used against him (or for him), he still doesn't have a chance of not being proven guilty, because there is simply too many of his own words that implicate him. AND staggering quantities of other evidence. I will have to seriously praise his lawyers, the ones he can actually get to work for him, if they succeed in getting him off with no guilty verdict. That will be the apex of any of their careers, comparable to making it to orbit by jumping on a trampoline. Freon You clearly did not read what "my side" had to say and I speak for myself anyhow. "My side" could make the absolute dumbest comment or argument in the world, you choosing to bring that up instead of responding to me only shows how desperate you are in your inability to respond to what I said. You are making baseless assertions about his motives now. Oh yeah, this is where you play your silly game claiming to have all this evidence, but never produce any of it. You still think the incitement thing is going to go anywhere? That is cute. We'll see. I think you are going to be VERY surprised at how many people joyfully stab Donald in the back. And he'll deserve every single one. As will you. These are merely metaphors, so please don't freak out. Justice is slow, methodical, and thorough, so it's not going to be action-packed. It'll likely be boring. And that's just perfect. Freon
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2022 1:52:17 GMT
What does the word fight mean? Seven out of ten uses have nothing to do with violence and one is about boxing. When paired with phrases likemarch peacefully and let your voices be heard, the most likely meaning of the word fight has nothing to do with violence. So context means nothing to you? Was the Final Solution of the jews just the last one they tried, or did it mean, in context, that they were going to be exterminated. Your argument is that when Donald used the word fight, he meant it like boxing? Are you truly that naive? Freon My point was that the context was not about violence.
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